How can this editor be used to edit online

Hello,

I have used online editors before, but after two days of reading the "doumentation" and looking at the sample files - I have not a clue how this can be used to edit webpages online.
As I see by the samples, it seems that anytime someone brings up a page online - the editor is always present - and anyone can make changes. How is this product configured so that the normal page is seen online - and then only the page "owner" can bring the editor into it for editing?
This may seem to be a stupid question - but nowhere I have looked does this seem to be explained. I have used "HTML AREA" editor for sometime - and I'd love to see if this is even better.
Thanks for any help on this......

Fri, 08/19/2005 - 19:25

bnoblet

Joined: 29/11/2006

Posts: 179

RE: How can this editor be used to edit onlin

FCK is an editor, pure and simple.

Such functionality as you are talking about is the job of a Content Management System (CMS). The CMS would incorporate the FCKEditor whilst providing the framework for retrieving and storing the content on a file system or database.

It isn't (and should never be) the job of editors like FCK to decide how you want to structure and store your content, just to provide the interface to edit the HTML portions of it.

Cheers
Ben

Fri, 08/19/2005 - 20:40

donnie_h

Joined: 19/08/2005

Posts: 3

RE: How can this editor be used to edit online

Thank you, Ben for your reply.

I must admit I am a bit confused though. Why would anyone have such an editor online to edit their webpages, when everyone else looking at the page could also edit it?
The program I have been using "HtmlArea" shows a normal webpage to the visitor - then by entering a username and password - the "owner" of the page can make any changes (updates) to the page he wishes and have it instantly available. Sort of like a CMS system, I suppose. HtmlArea uses a toolbar very similar to FCKeditor to make the changes.
Sorry if I lack some understanding in the purpose of FCKeditor - but I just don't see why one would allow just anyone to edit their website pages.
Anyway, thank you for the kindness of taking your time to respond.
With all best wishes...
Don

Fri, 08/19/2005 - 21:21

bnoblet

Joined: 29/11/2006

Posts: 179

RE: How can this editor be used to edit onlin

I have used HTMLArea before, and it didn't have any of those features when I used it. Perhaps someone wrapped this additional login functionality around it ?

When I say "CMS", it certainly does not have to be very complicated, and could consist of just a password protected page that loads HTML into the editor from a disk file, and saves it back again.

Maybe someone could provide something similar for FCKEditor? Or provide a list of existing CMS's that already integrate it?

Cheers
Ben

Fri, 08/19/2005 - 22:24

bnoblet

Joined: 29/11/2006

Posts: 179

RE: How can this editor be used to edit onlin

http://www.htmlarea.com

Fri, 08/19/2005 - 23:00

pr0fess0r

Joined: 18/08/2005

Posts: 13

RE: How can this editor be used to edit online

The way I interpret it is like this. The fckeditor is a tool you install on your server and then use wherever you like on your site. It allows a person to edit HTML as though they were working in Word - it has similar toolbars, and can allow you to preview the content, look at the source code, spellcheck etc. It's up to the web developer how they use it. Normally, in some secure admin area of your site, you set it up so the admin can edit content like news or articles for example. The developer writes code to populate the fckeditor with the content, say from a database, and because the fckeditor is essentially just like an HTML textarea within a form, once you submit the form, you have code that updates the database. The public dont need to see it at all or know it exists, it's just a tool for editing "rich" content.
Hope that makes some sense

Sat, 08/20/2005 - 11:17

donnie_h

Joined: 19/08/2005

Posts: 3

RE: How can this editor be used to edit online

http://www.webstationone.com/test/htmlarea/

http://www.nitestarrs.com/demo.cgi?p=1

Sat, 08/20/2005 - 14:09

pr0fess0r

Joined: 18/08/2005

Posts: 13

RE: How can this editor be used to edit online

No problem Don. I've tried a lot of wysiwyg textarea replacements over the years (editworks pro, devedit, editlet etc), and never found one where I didnt have to go in and change code, fix bugs, and do all sorts of hacks to get it to deal with Microsoft Word content and recognise paths right (especially with the upload feature), fckeditor is the best so far - tonnes of features, very cross-platform compatible (except for Safari but that's coming), easy to integrate and code around.
cheers