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Fri, 05/09/2008 - 15:33

#1

entwickler

Joined: 09/05/2008

Posts: 9

HTMLEntities Translation

Hi,

following problem occurs when I have activated HTMLEntities processing in fckconfig.js.

FCKConfig.ProcessHTMLEntities = true ;

When entering the EURO sign (€) in text-view and switching to source-view it is translated to &curren. Switching back to text-view shows a square instead of the correct sign.
I had a look at the demo of the editor on this site and had a different result. In the demo the sign is translated to &euro when switching to the source-view.

Any suggestions why in my case the sign isn't translated properly would be highly appreciated.

Mon, 05/19/2008 - 15:43

#2

entwickler

Joined: 09/05/2008

Posts: 9

Re: HTMLEntities Translation

Hello again,

is there anybody who has an idea?

Greetings from Germany

Mon, 05/19/2008 - 15:56

#3

mosipov

Joined: 22/02/2008

Posts: 574

Re: HTMLEntities Translation

It's likely your system/browser or whatsoever but it isn't the Editor. See my screenshots.

Greets from Berlin

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Mon, 05/19/2008 - 16:21

#4

a.m.

Joined: 20/04/2008

Posts: 256

Re: HTMLEntities Translation

Entwickler wrote:When entering the EURO sign (€) in text-view and switching to source-view it is translated to &curren. Switching back to text-view shows a square instead of the correct sign.

What browser are you using? Try disabling JavaScript (this will disable FCKeditor) and type these characters directly into the textarea: € ¤. See if they come through Ok when you submit the page. If you still get a hollow square for either of them, there might be something wrong with the character encoding on this page or the code behind it.

Andre

Fri, 06/20/2008 - 17:37

#5

entwickler

Joined: 09/05/2008

Posts: 9

Re: HTMLEntities Translation

Hey and thanx for helping. Unfortunately we still haven't found a solution for the problem. We tried to disable the

ProcessHTMLEntities

by setting it to

false

. This is working, but we are not sure about whether this is an option. I think, we will need the processing of the HTML-Entities for other stuff...

Any idea, why it's working in the online demo but not with our local installation?

Another way to check whether your installation has the same "bug" is the following:

1. Open your page with at least one FCKeditor
2. Click on "Source"-Button
3. Enter

&euro;

4. Click again on the "Source"-Button
5. Now back in WYSIWYG-Mode we still have an Euro symbol
6. Another click on "Source"-Button and the

&euro;

is now a

&curren;

in the source code :roll:
7. Back to WYSIWYG-Mode we have the wrong symbol...

I don't really get the point where that shi** happens. Anyone an idea? Config? We already tried the original config from the online demo (http://www.fckeditor.net/fckeditor/2.6.1/fckconfig.js) - still the same problem... we also tried to experiment with the meta charset, without any success...

Please help us!

Sat, 06/21/2008 - 19:18

#6

a.m.

Joined: 20/04/2008

Posts: 256

Re: HTMLEntities Translation

Do you have a demo page?

Sat, 06/21/2008 - 19:35

#7

entwickler

Joined: 09/05/2008

Posts: 9

Re: HTMLEntities Translation

Not yet - but i can build one on monday... i will let you know

Sat, 06/21/2008 - 22:30

#8

datalink

Joined: 18/10/2007

Posts: 149

Re: HTMLEntities Translation

I think it's a charset problem.

Sun, 06/22/2008 - 00:48

#9

entwickler

Joined: 09/05/2008

Posts: 9

Re: HTMLEntities Translation

Maybe, do you have any idea what we should test according this charset problem instead of the meta charset value?

OK, i made the demonstration installation ready for you! You can test this "phenomen" here:
http://donau.kicms.de/fck_test/test.html

Please report any information you could give us!

Sun, 06/22/2008 - 02:18

#10

mosipov

Joined: 22/02/2008

Posts: 574

Re: HTMLEntities Translation

Did you already try on Apache instead of Zope?

Sun, 06/22/2008 - 14:36

#11

entwickler

Joined: 09/05/2008

Posts: 9

Re: HTMLEntities Translation

Not yet, but i can do that on monday. Do you have any idea what the problem could be with using FCK in Zope?

Sun, 06/22/2008 - 14:41

#12

mosipov

Joined: 22/02/2008

Posts: 574

Re: HTMLEntities Translation

Entwickler wrote:Not yet, but i can do that on monday. Do you have any idea what the problem could be with using FCK in Zope?

At least I can't tell, I use Tomcat only.

Sun, 06/22/2008 - 16:43

#13

a.m.

Joined: 20/04/2008

Posts: 256

Re: HTMLEntities Translation

Entwickler wrote:Maybe, do you have any idea what we should test according this charset problem instead of the meta charset value?

OK, i made the demonstration installation ready for you! You can test this "phenomen" here:
http://donau.kicms.de/fck_test/test.html

Please report any information you could give us!

I can tell you what's going on, but you will have to figure out why.

The problem is that the document that hosts the text area containing the source (the one with the class SourceField) is identified using character set ISO-8859-15, which reinterprets the value of code A4, which displayed as ¤ in ISO 8859-1 (Western) and as € in ISO-8859-15:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO/IEC_8859-15

You can see this character set if you install DOM Inspector in FireFox (a standard add-on). If you do a small experiement and switch the encoding of your test page (View > Character Encoding) to Western (ISO-8859-1) and then back to UTF-8, you will see that your problem goes away.

So, it looks to me that one of the editor's pages gets served either with the wrong encoding or with no encoding at all and ISO-8859-15 is assumed.

Andre

Sun, 06/22/2008 - 16:47

#14

a.m.

Joined: 20/04/2008

Posts: 256

Re: HTMLEntities Translation

I looked at your HTTP traffic and can even tell you why this is happening. This request:

GET /fck_test/FCKeditor/editor/fckeditor.html?InstanceName=Test&Toolbar=Test HTTP/1.1

results in this response:

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:43:41 GMT
Server: Zope/(Zope 2.10.5-final, python 2.4.4, linux2) ZServer/1.1
Content-Length: 11052
Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-15
Via: 1.1 donau.kicms.de

This is your problem.

Andre

Mon, 06/23/2008 - 12:11

#15

entwickler

Joined: 09/05/2008

Posts: 9

Re: HTMLEntities Translation

A.M. wrote:You can see this character set if you install DOM Inspector in FireFox (a standard add-on). If you do a small experiement and switch the encoding of your test page (View > Character Encoding) to Western (ISO-8859-1) and then back to UTF-8, you will see that your problem goes away.

So, it looks to me that one of the editor's pages gets served either with the wrong encoding or with no encoding at all and ISO-8859-15 is assumed.

Andre

Thanx for your help. It's working the way you described it, but now the FCKEditor isn't processing the € symbol at all. I am not sure whether that's good for us...

@A.M.
Another thing is, that when we are looking at the HTTP-Response, i cannot see the wrong encoding. I have just made 2 screenshots which say it's encoded with utf-8

HTTP-Response via Web-Developer (FF-Plugin):

HTTP-Response via Dom Inspector (FF-Plugin):

Even if i use the following page, it results in utf-8 encoding :?:
http://web-sniffer.net

Can you tell me, how you listed your HTTP-Response to see the wrong encoding?

Mon, 06/23/2008 - 13:24

#16

a.m.

Joined: 20/04/2008

Posts: 256

Re: HTMLEntities Translation

Entwickler wrote:Can you tell me, how you listed your HTTP-Response to see the wrong encoding?

Try the URL I mentioned.

Mon, 06/23/2008 - 13:41

#17

entwickler

Joined: 09/05/2008

Posts: 9

Re: HTMLEntities Translation

Yes, you are right. Thanx again. We are working on that...

Mon, 06/23/2008 - 13:43

#18

a.m.

Joined: 20/04/2008

Posts: 256

Re: HTMLEntities Translation

Also, keep in mind that when using DOM Inspector, you want to look at the document, not at the meta tag.

Mon, 06/23/2008 - 13:54

#19

entwickler

Joined: 09/05/2008

Posts: 9

Re: HTMLEntities Translation

Yes, thx.