I'm not finding a configuration file or any kind or access control mechanism.. consequently, every time I access a file that has been configured to use the editor, I get the editor, and not the page.
Am I missing something? I'd appreciate it if someone would offer me a clue.
Many thanks!
Am I missing something? I'd appreciate it if someone would offer me a clue.
Many thanks!
Re: Access Control?
CKEditor is not a CMS, just a little part of a form, you should take care of any kind of access control. Please, read this: http://alfonsoml.blogspot.com/2009/08/u ... sites.html
Re: Access Control?
Thanks for the reply.
The problem is, its being marketed as a CMS. It would make sense to include this 'new' information in a text file, along with anything else that might be pertinent, so that the user downloading 'free' software isn't duped into trying to get something that its not designed to do.
I'm sorry to be harsh, but I am really frustrated right now, and I think I'm owed an apology.
If you're going to suggest I use ckfinder as a method of controlling access, that also would be good to know.
Thanks,
Thomas
Re: Access Control?
Where?
I don't think that I've ever seen any info in the CKSource site describing CKEditor as a CMS.
The first sentences in the INSTALL.html file (included in the download) state this
If you didn't read the install file then how can we know that you would have read any other file?
No.
CKFinder is a File manager, you still need to have your CMS where the users login. As this is a server component it does include the checks (that you must adjust!) to control the access and capabilities of the users, but again, this is only a part of your CMS, and CKFinder doesn't control CKEditor, it's the other way round: CKEditor calls CKFinder (or your own file browser) to provide the image/file selection for the users.
Re: Access Control?
I really don't know where to start.. you're all over the place.
Yes, ckeditor is being marketed as a CMS, that how I found you. There isn't anything in any of your documentation that says its not a CMS, and oh, by the way, a web-based text editor IS a CMS, and a CMS is a web-based text editor!
CMS = Web-based text editor = CMS
Not having an access control mechanism doesn't mean that ckedit isn't a CMS, it simply means that its an incomplete product, and if you're going to produce and provide this as a partial solution, then you should state this in simple terms, so that people don't have expectations that it can't meet.
Seriously guys, I've been at this for a long time, probably longer than any of you, and I've never spent so much time 'chasing a dream'.. you really need to manage your customer's expectations, and not addressing this issue at the outset is simply irresponsible.
While I really like your product, it doesn't do what I need it to do, and I would have like to have known this much earlier on in my evaluation process.
Aside from that, I'm really disappointed and irritated in how you are handling this discussion. Stating 'no.. nah ah.. not so.. not our fault.. we aren't responsible is not professional.
You need to add some disclaimers to beginning of all of your content, so that this doesn't happen.
Thomas
Re: Access Control?
But you still haven't stated any place where there are such marketing claims. You asked for a file pointing out what's CKEditor for newcomers and I replied to you that such file already exists and it explains at the very beginning what's CKEditor
Yes, there's also no disclaimer explaining that it isn't a forum system, or a picture editor, or a video catalog... Does it really needs to state everything that CKEditor is not?
The documentation states CKEditor is a text editor to be used inside web pages and that's all. everything else is just in your mind.
No, no, no and NO.
A textarea is also web based editor (that just allows you to edit in plain text format), and you won't ever see anyone claiming that with just a textarea you have a CMS.
If you search the web for CMS you'll see lots of CMSs and CKEditor won't appear there as a CMS. It's a tool used by CMSs but that's all. If you don't know what's a CMS then I'm sorry for you but I won't try to explain it to you because you have stated clearly that you don't want to admit your confusion and instead try to put the blame on someone else.
Re: Access Control?
Clearly you are not professional enough to simply be graceful about this:
You need to add disclaimers to your documentation clearly stating that ckedit is not a CMS, and does not include any form of access control or authentication. If you can't do this, then I'm going to bill you for my time; its $96/hr, with a 10 hour minimum engagement.
And oh, by the way, Yes, yes, yes, and YES, a web-based text editor is a CMS.. what you have is only be part of a CMS, and you should be professional enough to say so, clearly, at the outset.
I'm really disappointed with how you are handling this.