Opera/Safari Support

google maps uses AJAX (Asynchronous JavaScript + XML - more info here: http://www.adaptivepath.com/publication ... 000385.php) which can be used to get data off a server without reloading the browser, but has nothing to do with rich text editing. It could perhaps be useful for a nifty spellchecker or html validator but fckeditor requires browsers with support for contentediable=true or mshtml or dhtml - basically turning a div into an editable area. If that's not supported then there's really nothing you can do AFAIK.

Safari 2.0 (will come with OS 10.4 tiger, hopefully in early april 05) supposidly has an editing engine built in, which will make it possible to customize fck to run on it.

Safari 1.3, released less than a week ago adds support for both >contenteditable< and >designMode<

From: http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/hyatt/ar ... tml#007962

"HTML Editing
Safari 1.3 supports HTML editing, both at the Objective-C WebKit API level and using contenteditable and designMode in a Web page."

Safari 1.3 (for Mac OS X 10.3.9 - Panther) and Safari 2.0 (to be released with Mac OS X 10.4 - Tiger, April 29) share the same rendering engine, so there should not be any compatibility differences between them.

So... will FCK be able to support Safari now?

I would be more than happy to promote the editor compatibility to Safari... I just still need to find out some way to have a Mac Mini here for testing it.

I enabled the debuging menu

(type:
defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeDebugMenu 1
in the terminal.)

in Safari 1.3 to see how it managed now that it has support for contenteditable...

set it to identify itself as Mozilla 1.1 but no luck... tryed all options.. no luck...

here is to hoping!!

I'm working on it:
http://www.fckeditor.net/donate/safari/

(Or at least I would like to )

well, 8 months later, what is the situation?
http://bugzilla.opendarwin.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4403 seems to be closed, and you got your ibook... Thanks for a short update

I can appreciate it might be a nightmare getting it to work on Safari, however is there any chance you could change things so it doesn't render the textarea tottaly useless on Safari? Currently any site implementing FCK Editor is preventing Safari users for entering text.

The area doesn't show up at all, can you just make it give a regular textarea for Safari? 'Safari' is present in the useragent string.

You can use the ReplaceTextArea function instead. I do this anyway so anyone not using javascript or having problems with FCK can turn javascript off and enter text through the normal text area.

BTW, they CAN add Opera 9 support for their Editor but for some reason they haven't. You can modify one file in their editor and you will find that probably 99% of the editor will work with Opera 9.

But for some reason they continue to ignore Opera 9.

I just installed Opera 9 beta... and FCKEditor works with no changes

Sadly, afer the final version of Opera 9, FCKEditor stopped working again

What could happened that it briefly worked during beta period?

Well, we dropped FCKeditor and switched to TinyMCE. We have far fewer problems with it and it is more easily expandable. Plus it has supported Opera 9 for almost a year now.

We basically gave up on any of the developers of FCKeditor actually supporting Opera 9. I mean it isn't that HARD to do but I feel they just do not like Opera and exclude it on purpose.

I think anyone who wants the best crossbrowser rech editor support should just drop FCKeditor and switch to TinyMCE.

We're heavily considering switching to TinyMCE too. I wish it had support for custom forms, but I believe there's a plugin for that. Overall, their package seems to be a little more professionally managed.

I'm certainly not trying to "knock" what has been done with fckeditor. It's a nice editor, overall. Unfortunately, we've invested a lot of time into fckeditor, but the bug fixes are not happening fast enough. So, we can't upgrade the editor version in our product until it's stable, whenever that might be. I think it's because the bulk of this project load is placed in the hands of a few part-timers as is much open-source.

I just don't think it's ready for professional apps at this time, although it's probably fine for small custom sites. I do appreciate what it's allowed my company to do up to this point.

http://www.fckeditor.net/demo

<-- This is working perfectly in my newly downloaded opera 9.02.

No configuration nedded..

(poor english)