Hi,
I had a few suggestions/comments about the general documentation (in the forum mainly):
1. Can the help forum be subdivided? 7000 msgs is nuts to navigate. Maybe into folders such as 'installation', 'images', 'xml' 'plugins'....etc.
2. There seems to be some confusion to newcomers on what this product can and can not do. (and there are some snide comments to noob questions by egocentric developers that is not encouraging at all) A simple question and answer section would suffice, with links to how-to's, examples or 'learn this first->' to continue. (yes, its a utopian world thats in my head)
I guess I should be the one to start, but I really don't know the answers...
A. Creator or Editor?
1. FCKeditor's main use is to ______ [*.*] type of file.
2. Can it open existing files? y/n
2.1 These types can be opened: ....
2.2 How?
3. What format does it save files in?
3.1 Where can these files be stored?
3.2 Can it save in .txt of RTF formats?
3.3 If one wanted to save the text without the markup or tags in a database, how would you do it?
3.4 What should one do if they were looking for more of a standard editor that happened to be browser based?
B. Exporting or Conversions (? :S )
1. Can I make a .doc out of it?
1.1 How?.......
2. Tools?
3. So I have an hmtl file. What else can I do to make it easier for my clients to use once they downloaded it? I don't want them to have to cut and paste into M$ Word. (Although, yes its trivial to us devs)
etc.
C. What is up with XML? etc......
1. What does it have to do with FCKeditor?
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.
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D. etc.
And I am sure there are plenty of others [sigh]
I had a few suggestions/comments about the general documentation (in the forum mainly):
1. Can the help forum be subdivided? 7000 msgs is nuts to navigate. Maybe into folders such as 'installation', 'images', 'xml' 'plugins'....etc.
2. There seems to be some confusion to newcomers on what this product can and can not do. (and there are some snide comments to noob questions by egocentric developers that is not encouraging at all) A simple question and answer section would suffice, with links to how-to's, examples or 'learn this first->' to continue. (yes, its a utopian world thats in my head)
I guess I should be the one to start, but I really don't know the answers...
A. Creator or Editor?
1. FCKeditor's main use is to ______ [*.*] type of file.
2. Can it open existing files? y/n
2.1 These types can be opened: ....
2.2 How?
3. What format does it save files in?
3.1 Where can these files be stored?
3.2 Can it save in .txt of RTF formats?
3.3 If one wanted to save the text without the markup or tags in a database, how would you do it?
3.4 What should one do if they were looking for more of a standard editor that happened to be browser based?
B. Exporting or Conversions (? :S )
1. Can I make a .doc out of it?
1.1 How?.......
2. Tools?
3. So I have an hmtl file. What else can I do to make it easier for my clients to use once they downloaded it? I don't want them to have to cut and paste into M$ Word. (Although, yes its trivial to us devs)
etc.
C. What is up with XML? etc......
1. What does it have to do with FCKeditor?
.
.
.
D. etc.
And I am sure there are plenty of others [sigh]
RE: Can this be more organized?
General documentation is really important, I agree. But developers hate documenting. Any feedback is welcome and any documentation is welcome. All questions are welcome. Maybe a new wiki page can be started with just lots of question that can be answered later on by developers. Or someone can harvest through the forum and compose a FAQ... (good luck ;p )
Composing a link list of usefull pages or websites about the FCKeditor is usefull too.
The (maybe lacking yes) FCKeditor description:
Online text editor (DHTML editor), for ASP, ASP.NET, ColdFusion, PHP, Java and JavaScript brings to the web many of the powerful functionalities of known desktop editors like Word. It's XHTML compliant and works with Firefox, Mozilla, Netscape and IE. It's really lightweight and doesn't require any kind of installation on the client computer.
Links:
homepage and FCKeditor feature list: http://www.fckeditor.net/
demo: http://www.fckeditor.net/demo/
FCKeditor wiki: http://wiki.fckeditor.net/
FCKeditor wiki userGuide: http://wiki.fckeditor.net/UsersGuide
sourceforge project page: http://sourceforge.net/projects/fckeditor/
sourceforge FCKeditor forums: http://sourceforge.net/forum/?group_id=75348
unofficial forums: http://fckeditor.biz/
wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FCKeditor
wikipedia's WYSIWYG definition: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wysiwyg
FCKeditor for the MediaWiki software: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FCKeditor
FCKeditor for Drupal: http://drupal.org/project/fckeditor
FCKEditor.Plone: http://plone.org/products/fckeditor
small review: http://www.myopensource.org/web+scripts ... oad-review
List of "Through the Web" WYSIWYG Web Editors: http://www.geniisoft.com/showcase.nsf/WebEditors
my personal pages:
plugins for the FCKeditor: http://fckplugins.saulmade.nl/
skins for the FCKeditor: http://fckskins.saulmade.nl/
1. you're completely right. I don't like the sourceforge forums. In the beginning I found them just rubbish and it kept me away from the project. Now I got used to them, but still I really hope FredCK will migrate to another forum.
2. Good start, hope more people hop on this effort! I'll be the second one, but don't know all answers myself...
A. Creator or Editor
1. FCKeditor provides an online WYSIWYG editor to be able to edit or compose HTML or XHTML pages (.htm and .html) without the need to know HTML. This ranges from small posts in a forum to complete pages in a CMS (Content Management System) The FCKeditor can be configured to any needs in this range.
2. It can open and save existing files on the server through the LFO filemanager plugin. NOTE: The LFO plugin only works with PHP and no other servers side scripting language!
Plugin FCKeditor thread :: http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php? ... _id=257179
Plugin's own project page :: http://sourceforge.net/projects/lfobrowser/
2.1 Not sure, but I guess that technically any types can be opened through the LFO filemanager. With .htm and .html only being usefull.
2.2 The plugin will add a open and save button to the toolbar. See the plugin's installation instructions for further details.
3. The editor normally just posts XHTML content to a specified page. This page can contain a server side script that handles the received data... Throught the LFO plugin, the editorcontent can be saved as any file you configure it to allow. With my changes that I still have to publish, you can also configure it to only allow saving changes and not to enter a new filename.
3.1 On the server where the FCKeditor is and in the directory you specify in the LFO config.
3.2 yes, if you allow it to.
3.3 Hmmm this is strange? For this you would not want to use the FCKeditor. But anyway, post the edited content to a script that strips the tags and saves the content....
3.4 I don't understand your question? For what would one want to use this editor? Maybe check the List of "Through the Web" WYSIWYG Web Editors: http://www.geniisoft.com/showcase.nsf/WebEditors
B. Exporting or Conversions
1. For this a plugin should be created, but I have no idea how to create .doc files. Personally I would strongly recommend building .odt (openOffice, http://filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=ODT) compatibility instead of .doc really.
2. Check the plugins page http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_i ... tid=737639 and keep an eye on http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php? ... _id=257179 : Java library to convert FCK Editor XHTML into pdf
3. What should your client be doing with the file? If only reading, I think converting to PDF is usefull...
C. XML
Not sure where XML fit in here. The only use of XML is for predefining styles and templates as far as I know. Maybe you heard about AJAX (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajax_%28programming%29), but I don't know if the FCKeditor is using it.