I am somewhat frustrated too if knowbody is willing to help in any kind of forum but you seem to forget that the support happens here on a voluntary basis, NO ONE is obliged to help you. People just do simply because they have the free time to share their knowledge and experience. If no one answers, it simply means they don't have the time or they just don't know.
If you really need help, you have unfortunately to pay for.
nat wrote:>If you really need help, you have unfortunately to pay for.
See what i mean?? "Poor developer" has no chance to come out! No money, no help! Or maybe, when bored by lot of written codes, they sometimes provide some help!
Think for a moment: How many questions have you posted to this forums? How many other people have you helped? Do you really want us to believe that you couldn't have helped other people with less knowledge about FCKeditor?
If you didn't help that people, why do you expect that someone that might be able to help you would bother replying to your questions?
It's quite hypocrite to say that nobody helps you but at the same time you aren't giving help to other people.
So what? You people sitting there have no problem developing with the editor! You know every corners of your tool. Why don't you say your tool is just for those who can pay? Or is it just to lock developers till they reach the point they must pay? @alfonsoml: I really have little knowledge of fckeditor and am not so founded in javascript. So for helping others, am a novice. I really love working with the editor that's why am sometimes frustrated that I couldn't get help! I JUST WANT TO SAY: PLEASE, MAKE THIS FORUM MORE ENJOYABLE FOR BEGINNER! And also i am not the only person complaining about this forum. I even read in this very forum a thread from a guy saying "nobody loves him"!! (You see what i mean?) I know you work very hard on a volontary basis (humm?? where do "paid developers" send their money? I don't want to know... )... So what? I just want to get up and use my favorite tool! Happy Easter time anyway! -nat
You still don't get it. No one has any obligation to help you. If someone can, he will. Period. The guy "nobody loves me" ist just the same moron as other guys are since they are expecting help with a subject like "help me", or "nothing works, urgent". They are just a waste of time because I waste my time to scan through the post to understand his problem instead of having a summary from the subject and second, such people disappear as soon as they get their "help".
FYI: I have never been paid a cent by Fred or someone else for my work here in the forums or the Java part. I do this absolutely free of charge. Just for a good cause because I believe in open source.
Anstatt unsere Zeit zu verschwenden, hättest du sie lieber zur Problemlösung einsetzen sollen.
I also think that this forum could be improved. Specifically I would create a more organized forum structure. There's currently only 1 support forum and the forum for the new CKEditor is called "Open development effort" which is quite strange. E.g. I would create a category "CKeditor 3.0" with subforums Help, Bugs and User Plugins.
BUT I'm not complaining about the responses of the core developers (altough I wish they could help more). This great editor is programmed for us by some excellent developers and as long as you're using the free version, you're not paying a dime for it. There's years of experience, bug testing, etc. in the current editor and you get it for FREE. Again, for FREE.
@nat: My advice for you is, first do your part before expecting others to help for free. This means:
Learn javascript
Learn to express yourself more nicely and precisely in english
Try to understand the code (it's open source) and help yourself
If you don't have time for this, a commercial license or another commercial project might be better suited for your needs. I hope I didn't offend you but for my part, I prefer open source projects that are free with cheap licensing options. I have to do a bit more to understand everything and the documentation might not be the best, but it's free and allows full extensibility and understanding of the underlying code.
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If you really need help, you have unfortunately to pay for.
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How many questions have you posted to this forums?
How many other people have you helped?
Do you really want us to believe that you couldn't have helped other people with less knowledge about FCKeditor?
If you didn't help that people, why do you expect that someone that might be able to help you would bother replying to your questions?
It's quite hypocrite to say that nobody helps you but at the same time you aren't giving help to other people.
Re: Angry this forum????
You people sitting there have no problem developing with the editor! You know every corners of your tool.
Why don't you say your tool is just for those who can pay? Or is it just to lock developers till they reach the point they must pay?
@alfonsoml: I really have little knowledge of fckeditor and am not so founded in javascript. So for helping others, am a novice.
I really love working with the editor that's why am sometimes frustrated that I couldn't get help!
I JUST WANT TO SAY: PLEASE, MAKE THIS FORUM MORE ENJOYABLE FOR BEGINNER!
And also i am not the only person complaining about this forum. I even read in this very forum a thread from a guy saying "nobody loves him"!! (You see what i mean?)
I know you work very hard on a volontary basis (humm?? where do "paid developers" send their money? I don't want to know... )... So what? I just want to get up and use my favorite tool!
Happy Easter time anyway!
-nat
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The guy "nobody loves me" ist just the same moron as other guys are since they are expecting help with a subject like "help me", or "nothing works, urgent". They are just a waste of time because I waste my time to scan through the post to understand his problem instead of having a summary from the subject and second, such people disappear as soon as they get their "help".
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Re: Angry this forum????
Anstatt unsere Zeit zu verschwenden, hättest du sie lieber zur Problemlösung einsetzen sollen.
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BUT I'm not complaining about the responses of the core developers (altough I wish they could help more). This great editor is programmed for us by some excellent developers and as long as you're using the free version, you're not paying a dime for it. There's years of experience, bug testing, etc. in the current editor and you get it for FREE. Again, for FREE.
@nat: My advice for you is, first do your part before expecting others to help for free. This means:
If you don't have time for this, a commercial license or another commercial project might be better suited for your needs. I hope I didn't offend you but for my part, I prefer open source projects that are free with cheap licensing options. I have to do a bit more to understand everything and the documentation might not be the best, but it's free and allows full extensibility and understanding of the underlying code.
my .02 cents...