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Sat, 01/26/2008 - 18:00
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fredck
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Started the Open Development Effort!

While the 2.x releases of FCKeditor continue rolling out, we are parallelly planning and developing FCKeditor 3 (code named "V3").

V3 will not only be an amazing piece of software. Its development methodology is to be completely transformed with the Open Development Effort.

The Open Development Effort is our attempt to expand the development of V3 to the public in all its levels: discussions, research, design, coding, documentation, integration and sponsorship. The FCKeditor team will be in touch with people from all around the world, specialized on many different technology aspects, ensuring that all important arguments are being considered before and during the project development.

Join us, and stay in touch! Amazing things are about to happen!

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Sat, 01/26/2008 - 19:25
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Re: Started the Open Development Effort!


http://docs.fckeditor.net/FCKeditor_3.x ... ecture/ODE

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Sat, 01/26/2008 - 22:21
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Re: Started the Open Development Effort!

The thing I'd most like to see in 3.0 is a consolidation of the files... IMO - FCK has too many directories and file dependancies. I'd love to see a total conversion done from pop-up windows + htmls to all rendering in page, by dom scripting.
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Sun, 01/27/2008 - 00:27
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Re: Started the Open Development Effort!

this
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Mon, 01/28/2008 - 00:58
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Re: Started the Open Development Effort!

I think digitalskyline is not only talking about the floating dialogs vs popups. S/he's talking about the number of phisical files needed to run FCKeditor. Not considering the skin files, we are talking about fckeditor.html, fckeditorcode_xyz.js, fckdialog.html and all HTML files for the inner contents of each dialogs (actually the dialogs have also other dependencies).

For V3, I think we'll not have fckeditor.html anymore. For the dialogs instead, it makes a lot of sense on having them isolated in their own files, as it brings a progressive code download, under request.

The only question that remains in this topic is: How to download FCKeditor from a CDN?

I'm also thinking on solutions for it. It means that .html pages should be removed and replace with .js files. In this way, we'll not have document.domain restrictions.

To conclude, yes, we'll be working to reduce those dependencies. Suggestions would be wonderful to help us finding better ways to do that.

Thanks!

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Mon, 01/28/2008 - 20:44
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Re: Started the Open Development Effort!

I also agree with the previous author about minimizing the number of files/folders. Also perhaps each separate language should be a separate download (e.g. currently we have ASP, .NET, PHP, Coldfusion, etc. versions and I'm only interested in .NET version for our site).

Also I'd like to be able to configure the dialog invoked by Image button on the editor. I'd like the second tab (Update) to be the first one and more importantly I'd like to be able to set up the directory to upload in code using variables.

Since I'm new to the editor, I still didn't figure the simple way to achieve the desired functionality.

Also when I tried to upgrade my version of fck Editor to the most recent one I started to get some error messages regarding the toolbar. I had to go back to the old version for now and I created a complete copy of the whole solution to be able to experiment with the newest version of the editor.

But if someone is using the .NET version of the editor and can address my problems, I would be very grateful.

Thanks a lot in advance and thanks a lot for this great editor.

As a side note - I often press Save button by mistake instead of the Send. Then it takes a long time to locate the saved draft...
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Mon, 01/28/2008 - 21:58
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Re: Started the Open Development Effort!







viewtopic.php?f=5&t=8290
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Tue, 01/29/2008 - 02:26
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Re: Started the Open Development Effort!

alfonsoml wrote:One interesting idea that might be worth leaving documented is like suggested in this thread: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=8290 it's an easy task with some drawbacks but every bit counts after all even if there are no big wins like it seems at the end. At least it might help in order to really focus on the points where the performance can be improved by discarding other ideas.


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Tue, 01/29/2008 - 02:31
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Re: Started the Open Development Effort!

A side note for everybody reading and participating in this thread.

As all you may have noted, we have a dedicated Forum for the Open Development Effort. So, please open new topics for each of your suggestions, instead of making this and other long threads to talk about everything.

I'm looking forward to hearing your ideas! Have fun!

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Tue, 01/29/2008 - 05:00
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Re: Started the Open Development Effort!

Hi guys,

I've just been doing some monkeying around with the code to add a feature or two that I've found awfully handy and I'm thinking they might be appreciated if I hand them back so they can be cleaned up and maybe included in future versions.

Is this the forum for code contributions or just ideas?
Should I start another thread about this or try and get a hold of someone on IRC?

Cheers for a great package.

- Webrascal
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Tue, 01/29/2008 - 15:01
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Re: Started the Open Development Effort!



information available in the docs site

development web site

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Tue, 01/29/2008 - 20:06
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Re: Started the Open Development Effort!

I am sorry, can I get some ideas/help for my questions? I've been struggling with this for some time and was trying to ask questions in Support forum to no avail.

Thanks a lot in advance.
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Mon, 02/04/2008 - 19:06
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Re: Started the Open Development Effort!

Is this also the place to do feature requests (in an separate thread)?
Probably not, but could you state the difference? Or perhaps start some issues yourself to get us going?
I had the idea of a 'sidebar for toolbar buttons + widgets/plugins'. Is this something to discuss here?
And what about the idea of voting for feature request?
I'm starting several threads, move or delete any you don't feel fitting the ODE.
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Tue, 02/05/2008 - 18:16
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Re: Started the Open Development Effort!

@saul11: your, you have done a great job by starting new topics with your ideas. That's the right place, and the right thing to do it. Thanks!

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