I have used FCK for years and found it very good for my style of use. I have recently converted to CK 3.4.6 on Joomla 1.5.23. I use the mootools 1.2.5 upgrade feature to support some of my extensions. I use IE9 in compatibility mode most often.
I am experiencing some problems when I switch from source mode to display mode back and forth. CK seems to reformat my code incorrectly. I have tried different settings in the plugin. These do not seem to have any impact.
Are there known problems with my specific configuration? At present I am not able to use CK successfully. I have gone back to FCK.
I see the advantage of the CK architecture and the plugins. I look forward to using it, but at the moment I am stuck in FCK.
One request for CK would be to allow paste from an external source into source mode. I use more than one editor for some of the more difficult editing tasks. For example, I may copy and paste to FrontPage in source mode, edit, and copy and paste back to FCK. This has worked well for me for several years.
I look forward to your responses.
Thanks.
I am experiencing some problems when I switch from source mode to display mode back and forth. CK seems to reformat my code incorrectly. I have tried different settings in the plugin. These do not seem to have any impact.
Are there known problems with my specific configuration? At present I am not able to use CK successfully. I have gone back to FCK.
I see the advantage of the CK architecture and the plugins. I look forward to using it, but at the moment I am stuck in FCK.
One request for CK would be to allow paste from an external source into source mode. I use more than one editor for some of the more difficult editing tasks. For example, I may copy and paste to FrontPage in source mode, edit, and copy and paste back to FCK. This has worked well for me for several years.
I look forward to your responses.
Thanks.
Re: Some Problems With Usage
Hi,
please check at http://ckeditor.com/demo site if you have the same problems there. In this way we can get answer if this is CKEditor behaviour/problem or extension issue.
One note:
You can find our extension dedicated to Joomla here http://extensions.joomla.org/extensions/edition/editors/12821
Re: Some Problems With Usage
What version of Joomla is the demo site?
Is it using the mootools upgrade option to 1.2.5 (mtupgrade) in the system plugins?
Re: Some Problems With Usage
Re: Some Problems With Usage
My simple test without knowing your exact config, as stated in my last post, seems to work like the FCK I am used to. I could do a paste in source mode as well. This is definitely NOT how mine works.
I stopped using FCK with mtupgrade turned on because it would not go into source mode on my system.
I suspect the mtupgrade option may be a key here. I tested when the plugins were NOT added and had similar problems.
I do use some extensions but not that many. I have written most of my own. They DO NOT use mootools in general. Mine are for the front-end only.
The ones that use mootools are:
o an ifisheys.js script for a fisheye menu. I upgraded it to mootools 1.2 syntax with the compatibility helper script.
o simpleSlideShow (that you recommend).
o rokSlideShow
I appreciate your help. I suspect this will help may others as well.
For example, I see that some on the JED reviews for RokSlideShow have not hit on the mtupgrade feature to make RokSlideShow work with IE9. Or maybe they did, like I did, but had nowhere to post since the Forum is not free and the JED only allows one post per extension.
Looking forward to getting CK running as I need it.
Thanks.
Re: Some Problems With Usage
My ck editor is cosmetically different in the icon toolbars. The demo site also allows highlighting in source mode with the toolbar icon but the Joomla extension does not with the icon. You have to right click the text area and selectall there.
These may seem small but it makes me think that they may be different in other ways as well.
At present I get inconsistent results. I will keep trying to work with it. I would appreciate some more feedback on my questions.
Thanks.
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CKEditor library (from demo site) doesn't use mootools and jquery to work. jQquery folder is there for jQuery adapter (there should be no conflict with mootools). Our extension to joomla use mootools in component config section and in linkBrowser plugin.
I check and in extension there is select all button in source mode and it works. The right click behaviour that you mentioned is probably from browser (in Firefox this is default FF menu in textarea).
Maybe try default extension without any other plugins and check if there are options that you are looking for.
You can also check in firebug (FF add-on) if there are errors on your site.
Hope this give you some clues.
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Have you tested with IE 9 in compatibility mode for IE 7? I use this in the front-end because some extensions need it still. As I am sure you know IE 7 had a tendancy to allow less strict code to succeed than other browsers. I don't want to rewrite everyones extensions.
At this point I will try to work through the issues and watch it carefully.
I appreciate that running the standalone demo is a tool for isolation. But the point is that it needs to run as needed in the Joomla environment. Every site has templates, extensions, several libraries and frameworks to make it complete.
I would like to request that someone test in the Joomal environment with a bit more complete scope.
FCK did not exhibit these problems. How was it tested for Joomla??
Your help is appreciated.
Thanks.
Re: Some Problems With Usage
Hi,
first of all CKEditor demo page (http://ckeditor.com/demo) show only CKEditor possibilities and there is no Joomla .
Extension to Joomla is here http://extensions.joomla.org/extensions/edition/editors/12821 and it is tested to work with Joomla (1.5 & 1.6). This extension use latest version of CKEditor library (showed in demo page). So everything that works in demo page should works in the same way in Joomla extension. Of course Joomla extension has its own installer, configuration and options dedicated to Joomla.
Plesae remember that core functions for Joomla, Drupal and other extensions are the same as in CKEditor library (showed in demo page).
Do you use JCK module from http://extensions.joomla.org/extensions/edition/editors/90 ?
If yes try to search help/support on their web site.
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If I do not use that particular combination it is fine. I like the new features overall. The Icons are not as good as those in FCK IMHO.
FCK is broken in my configuration. The image browse locks up and a few other things. I have had to discontinue using it in advanced mode. Blog mode for the front-end seems to still be fine.
I will consider this thread closed. I would suggest you may want to review source mode when the window is maximized. It may help others.
Thanks for the new product architecture. Your products definitely enhance the J! experience. I find your editor the preferred choice.
Re: Some Problems With Usage
Hi,
I still don't know which extension do you use
.
I will check this behaviour.
Re: Some Problems With Usage - Example
Here is an example from your demo site showing the IE9 compatibility mode problem in CK source mode.
See the two attachments. It is easily reproduced with any JavaScript tags in CK.
I think compatibility mode will be in use for a while.
I also cannot select all in the source mode from the toolbar in either mode.
There must be some JS issues somewhere that IE compatibility breaks.
Thansk.
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