440kb+ for CKEditor 4. Am I missing something?

Hey, just got CKEditor 4 beta and I noticed that just the ckeditor.js file alone is 440kb minified... am I using some version with EVERYTHING included?

My entire website has about 330kb of JS minified and I can't justify doubling that for one box where users can highlight a part of text and make it bold.

So am I missing something or is there a very lightweight just standalone BBCode version or something? 440kb is INSANE

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 23:28

intellix

Joined: 19/10/2012

Posts: 3

Re: 440kb+ for CKEditor 4. Am I missing something?

I did use the search feature but didn't find anything. Found this thread via Google.
viewtopic.php?t=26916

I understand that CKEditor is supposedly feature rich but when I see another basic editor of 40kb. All I want is my users to highlight text, make it bold, italic, underlined and add lists etc.

The only place I can imagine using this is for CMS inline editing where I don't care how long it takes an admin to download 400kb. I know it gets gzipped to about 130kb but then it's got to process it etc also

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 17:51

aliasm2k

Joined: 30/03/2012

Posts: 14

Re: 440kb+ for CKEditor 4. Am I missing something?

Did you get CKEditor 4 Development Edition from its Github Repository ? The ckeditor.js file is just 4kb.

The repository also has samples which you may use for further reference.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 01:05

intellix

Joined: 19/10/2012

Posts: 3

Re: 440kb+ for CKEditor 4. Am I missing something?

That all looks cool but it seems everything is still heavily tied together. Attempted to remove plugins for just a box and bbcode buttons at the top and I think I'm still looking at about 300kb just for a bar with buttons that wraps [bbcode] around things.

Definitely not for me...

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 09:38

aliasm2k

Joined: 30/03/2012

Posts: 14

Re: 440kb+ for CKEditor 4. Am I missing something?

perhaps you should try markitup jquery plugin https://github.com/markitup/1.x

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 09:53

sebstefanov

Joined: 03/02/2012

Posts: 1329

Re: 440kb+ for CKEditor 4. Am I missing something?

You shouldn't look at any editor's size. You should look at how an app is designed for gzip compression, which most servers use nowadays. CKEditor is around 90 KB on servers with gzip enabled: https://developers.google.com/speed/articles/gzip

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Tue, 10/23/2012 - 14:11

aliasm2k

Joined: 30/03/2012

Posts: 14

Re: 440kb+ for CKEditor 4. Am I missing something?

Sebstefanov wrote:You shouldn't look at any editor's size. You should look at how an app is designed for gzip compression, which most servers use nowadays. CKEditor is around 90 KB on servers with gzip enabled: https://developers.google.com/speed/articles/gzip

Didn't know that... That is cool