Name changing ideas. Leave your opinion.

CKeditor sounds great but maybe something a little less tied to your name? Just a thought

Don't really like CKeditor, as it's not particularly descriptive. I, too, would suggest a totally new name...though nothing is coming to me at the moment.

CKeditor is ok, but Freditor is great!!!

I (for one) use the editor, not the name, the real thing.

I understand some <<insert any thing here>> might suppose it means something else...

My opinion (FWIW):

Don't lose time for that, we need code, no such worries, so wait something like 1 month, and pick whatever name sounds good to you (which cannot be confused with something else of course), and let's get back to real work

How about FredCKeditor? It retains the rhythm and original meaning of FCKeditor, but separates the F from the CK.

How about Freditor

Actually I don't really care, but if you are going to change the name, I would suggest to use a completely different name.

For non-english speakers the name doesn't matter too much, but I think that Freditor could be a good change.
Or does it sounds like any other english word?

Before choosing the final winner just look that there isn't any other product with that name and that no one has hijacked the domains

I like "Freditor" as well. It's kooky and describes both who owns/developed it, and also what it does.

"FCKeditor" has the unfortune of reminding people on first site of it, of a certain anglo-saxon word. Fred - sorry, but true, and my own boss has commented on that, even though we use it ourselves.

Frederico, if you like "Boilerplate", don't you like "caldeira" like I proposed?

- Caldeira (Babylon.com gave me this: French-English -> caldera, basin-like crater at the summit of a volcano; Portuguese-English -> boiler; kettle)

Saul, I wouldn't recommend Caldeira, as it sounds too close to Caldera.

The problem with Caldera, is that it's the name of a distribution of Linux which SCO owns. There is a /huge/ scandal there, as SCO basically claims to own Linux and is demanding royalties off everyone that uses any part of it.

So, if you rename it to Caldeira, then you may get some bad-will associated with it.

Most Windows users will not notice it, but Linux users will see the name, and automatically think of bad things.

LOL

it's difficult to find a name that doesn't have a twisted meaning. I said out loud FREDITOR, and it sounded strange and after a little I realized: -> Fredictor -> predictor, that's the name (or used to be) of a pregnacy test XD

Whatever!

Just make it easy the upgrade path if you change the API and I'll be happy.

I don't really care much about the name. The name can be changed whenever you want, important is that such a nice product like the FCKeditor is exists.

my 2c:
KnabbEd
http://onlinedictionary.datasegment.com/word/knabbed
As knabbing on the content )

As a newbie here, I'd like to suggest that I don't think it makes sense to change the name for the reason given.

I suppose there may be individuals/companies that choose not to use this very awesome product because of the name, but I have to think it's an insignificant number or an insufficient basis on which to make a disruptive business decision.

A different reason that I would consider legitimate (assuming there is a reason to believe this happens) is if people are rejecting fckeditor because at first glance they think continued development is directly dependent on one person's involvement. That would seem a much more valid business justification for rejection. If this reason carries weight, then ckeditor is just as inappropriate as the current name.

Just my two cents...

This was a usefull reply. I actually agree, changing names probably will damage the editor. Confusion all around. There was a moment that I didn't like the name, but I think now that it is much too late to change the name. If there are people joking with the F_CK (that's what I understand), leave them, they don't deserve a great editor.

I like the current name.

If you ask me, the reason it hasn't took off in the US like it has in, say, the UK, isn't in any way related to the name. (If that's true- where'd you get the market survey?)

I think that Americans are pretty ego-centric, and beyond that, language-centric, so in general you'll see a lot less multi-lingual applications in the US than you would in say, Europe, where it's crucial-er.

But just give us slow americans a little time, and I bet we get on the bandwagon. I think we may be starting to realize that the rest of the world is as important to us as the US is. Or at least important... If not, we'll be forced too, sooner or later, and I bet THEN you'd see a pickup in the usage of FCKEditor...

But I really doubt it has much to do with the name, if at all.
I'd never made the connection to fornication- some post in the "help" forum was the first I'd seen that did so, and it made me laugh, out loud, when I saw it.

But I read it "Eff See Kay Editor". Maybe that's it, the new name: Efsikay.

Naw, if it's gotta be new, freditor is cool, a name is just a name anyways.

And here i was, thinking FCK stood for Free Cool Kode. Hehehe.

Really, I would laugh my ass off if a client told me they had a problem with FCKEditor, as a name.
I'd ask how old they were, what their reading level was, and then tell them I use a command called "fsck" on their data, and have been fsck-ing their data for years.
If they giggled I'd hand up on 'em.

Next the marketoids will want the X out of XML, because it's too eXtreme sounding (or looking?). Don't give in, Fred! Say it ain't so! No bloody american market is worth it!

If it has to change, and Efsikay isn't good, how about redakti? Or editoro, redaktilo, reaktisto, redaktoro?

Bah. I vote for leaving it the same, and I think wisnick has the right idea about reasons for a name change. (Although I kind of like the personal link to the creator, and wouldn't mind keeping the FCK even if Fredstar bounces off to other projects, or gives up control).

I've seen reference to FCKEditor in several locations, across various projects and languages, so changing it will certainly effect people finding this great editor they heard about.
There are ways to mitigate that though, and anyone who knows how to google would surely find a link somewhere, so, eh... if you want to change the name, go for it man. I'll remember it fondly no matter what happens.

Congratulations on your success, Fred! FCK is quite an editor, and not bad initials. I like them just fine. Change is fine too. It's your show, no matter the name- please just keep it "open".

May you make tons and oodles of money! cheers!
:ExEnDen *giggles*

I noticed the problem Englisch language speakers could have with 'FCKeditor' (they could have a similar one with 'CKeditor' i guess), but i still think: don't change the name.

Markets are always acting in a conservative way; they don't like changes. They will always think: 'What's behind this change?' 'Can I still trust it?'.

With 3 years of development 'FCKeditor' is well known amongst programmers troughout the world. Don't get them confused.

And also i ask: is there really a reason to believe that programmers don't use the editor because of it's name?

Just my 2 cents.

Our clients do not like it when we refer to FCKeditor. Until they pointed it out, I had not even noticed. They would probably also have a problem with CKeditor, but I think that Freditor is the go! (or if that is too "cute" a name and not professional enough then FredKEditor sounds good as well)

Sorry, just to add, getting around the problem with out clients was easy, they don't care that its the FCKEditor, to them its just the "HTML Editor" that they use in their application so in our manuals we changed any reference to "the FCKEditor" to "the HTML Editor"

Freditor is a catchy name, and if your intent is to appeal to americans it can not hurt to be catchy.

If you're going to appeal to Americans, you might need less syllables

(Please no flames, I'm joking OK!)

I don't really care what it's called ... our clients don't ever really see the name anyway. But if you are going to change it I'd go for something non Fred-connected ... something boring like OpenEditor or OSEdit.

And as for name suggestions, something to do with opensource as suggested by the above poster is a really good marketing move. OpenEditor is brilliant IMHO. (if it's not copyrighted yet of course)

When a name has rollen out, maybe it's an idea to set up an advertisement project like firefox did (http://www.firefoxflicks.com/brief/brief.html), but then also (or only) with images and slogans.

It thing naming it into CKeditor will confuse people.

Some thoughts for a new name are:
- ricoEdit
- (Or in the line of Word and Writer: ) Coder
- Nexus (Which means connection or centre of something)
- HTMLManager/contentEditor/contentManager/CMSGear
- wwwrite
- Something with a color? orangeEditor, blueEditor or skyEditor
- Caldeira (Sounds great! Babylon.com gave me this: French-English -> caldera, basin-like crater at the summit of a volcano; ortuguese-English -> boiler; kettle)

or HTMLHive (Where hive can mean "store up, save in a safe place", see http://www.babylon.com/display.php?id=6 ... 45&level=3)

Freditor is really great -
(who the hell is Fred?).
It's an easy to remember name
and sounds good.

Maybe someone could create a Fred(-itor)-logo.

Fred, like in "Frederico Caldeira Knabben" -> FCKeditor :p

I read 'Preditor' there for a moment

Or FreckoEditor (Inspired on Gecko http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Gecko)

It would sound like FreakoEditor -> Freaky Editor

I would go for "Freditor" it sounds like "Freedom Editor"